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The 125 Challenge

Post by Tedage on Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:09 pm

So, after talking to our illustrious former u20 manager wing (and quindecagon), it was agreed that a top 20 year old would have 125 tsp (Total Skill Points).

I am interested to know what you would do with a blank player and 125 TSP to paint on that player as you see fit. Feel free to do one player or your full 15 if you have time.

On a side note, I think this will be valuable for new and old players alike to give them an aim whilst training their potential wonderkids.

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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by Wingnut on Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:15 pm

to be fair i think new age 20 year olds can hit 130 tsp in time for world cups.

but i will stick to 125 for the purpose of this game.
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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by quind on Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:22 pm

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Stamina 17
Handling 15
Attack 15
Defence 17
Technique 18
Strength 17
Jumping 2
Speed 12
Agility 10
Kicking 2

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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by Wingnut on Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:31 pm

1)188cm 130kg
Stamina:18 Handling: 14
Attack: 13 Defence: 18
Technique: 18 Strength: 18
Jumping: 7 Speed: 10
Agility: 8 Kicking: 1

2) 184cm 125kg
Stamina:18Handling: 18
Attack: 18 Defence: 16
Technique:18 Strength: 15
Jumping: 1 Speed: 10
Agility: 10 Kicking: 1

3) 188cm 130kg
Stamina:18 Handling: 15
Attack: 14 Defence: 18
Technique:18 Strength: 18
Jumping: 7 Speed: 8
Agility: 8 Kicking: 1

4) 208cm 125kg
Stamina: 18 Handling: 18
Attack: 7 Defence: 17
Technique: 15 Strength: 18
Jumping: 18 Speed: 8
Agility: 5 Kicking: 1

5) 206cm 105kg
Stamina:15 Handling: 15
Attack: 10 Defence: 15
Technique: 18 Strength: 15
Jumping:15 Speed: 15
Agility: 6 Kicking: 1

6) 203cm 125kg
Stamina:18 Handling: 15
Attack: 10 Defence: 18
Technique:18 Strength: 16
Jumping: 11 Speed: 10
Agility: 8 Kicking: 1

7) 190cm 100kg
Stamina: 16 Handling: 15
Attack: 10 Defence: 17
Technique: 18 Strength: 15
Jumping: 5 Speed: 18
Agility: 10 Kicking: 1

Cool 200cm 130kg
Stamina:18 Handling: 16
Attack: 10 Defence: 17
Technique: 18 Strength: 18
Jumping: 8 Speed: 8
Agility: 8 Kicking: 4


9) 180cm 80kg
Stamina: 15 Handling: 18
Attack: 13 Defence: 17
Technique: 6 Strength: 5
Jumping: 6 Speed: 18
Agility: 17 Kicking: 10

10) 190cm 90kg
Stamina: 16 Handling: 15
Attack: 18 Defence: 17
Technique: 6 Strength: 5
Jumping: 8 Speed: 11
Agility: 11 Kicking: 18

11) 180cm 75kg
Stamina: 17 Handling: 14
Attack: 18 Defence: 18
Technique: 5 Strength: 5
Jumping: 4 Speed: 18
Agility: 18 Kicking: 8

12) 200cm 110kg
Stamina:14 Handling: 18
Attack:16 Defence: 16
Technique: 9 Strength: 13
Jumping: 8 Speed: 14
Agility: 14 Kicking: 3

13) 190cm 90kg
Stamina:15 Handling: 15
Attack: 18 Defence: 16
Technique: 6 Strength: 10
Jumping: 5 Speed: 17
Agility: 18 Kicking: 5

14) 180cm 75kg
Stamina: 15 Handling: 18
Attack: 15 Defence: 18
Technique: 5 Strength: 5
Jumping: 5 Speed: 18
Agility: 18 Kicking: 8

15) 200cm 90kg
Stamina:16 Handling: 14
Attack: 14 Defence: 15
Technique: 10 Strength: 10
Jumping: 8 Speed: 14
Agility: 14 Kicking: 10
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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by Tedage on Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:34 pm

I find the values of kicking interesting

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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by Wingnut on Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:03 pm

so do i ted..... that scrumhalf is a dream though so wont need to kick much behind that pack and becouse he is a little magician too.

the flyhalf kicks all day long , the back 3 can make some clearance kicks and the centres can kick it a few metres, no need for kicking at all in the front 5 really. backrow could use a small amount of kicking in creative plays but its not a problem with such a dangerous set of backs, the 8 has 4 kicking, alongside the 7 this could be about 9 each for creative kicks like grubber kicks and so on but i have not got enough skill points, if i reduce the 8's kicking to 1 then the chances are he gets 11 speed instead.

i think he does need some kind of ball controll with his feet for scrums alongside locks and hookers but the match engine takes this very lightly if at all.

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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by Wingnut on Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:05 pm

my hooker used to have 8 kicking and scored allot of tries from chip kicks and grubber kicks but if you reduce this stat to 1 then it wont happen becouse the engine wont take it into consideration, we can just attack down other avenues.
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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by jeolmaga on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:01 am

I'm bored so why not
200cm 100kg
12) 200cm 110kg
Stamina:14 Handling: 16
Attack:16 Defence: 18
Technique: 5 Strength: 13
Jumping: 10 Speed: 17
Agility: 16 Kicking: 1
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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by Wingnut on Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:20 pm

not a bad looking 12 Smile you used 126 tsp though Wink
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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by Tedage on Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:30 pm

Improper maths will not be tolerated.

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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by jeolmaga on Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:29 am

Razz ur imagining it. see I meant to do that see if u guys were awake Wink.
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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by quind on Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:41 pm

Bump

With the U20 scouting period about to commence I thought people might like to see what the challenge of training an u20 looks like, i.e. where you'd want them to be by the WC.

Worth noting these figures are a little old, and with better awareness around the YA now we'd want if anything 130-135 TDSP skill points on a player by the WC

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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by Wingnut on Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:32 pm

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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by quind on Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:44 pm

Would you hold to your previous observations Wing? Or should the game move on to assigning 135 TDSP?

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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by Wingnut on Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:09 pm

3 years ago i said i expected the new crop to hit 130

135 could easily be the benchmark now
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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by quind on Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:15 pm

I don't remember what the best players were last time around, I know my lad was 127 TDSP and he certainly wasn't top of the pile

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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by jeolmaga on Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:32 pm

Jesus just thinking about what that means. One of my favorite players in my team is Princess Diana. Who is 138 tsp... jesus
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25 y/o (R2, D7) | 254,843 CSR (+506) | $22,435 p.w. | 198cm | 121kg | Georgia
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Energy: Energised
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Stamina: Monumental 18 Handling: Grand 15
Attack: Superior 16 Defense: Monumental 18
Technique: Marvelous 17 Strength: Amazing 14
Jumping: Impressive 11 Speed: Superior 16
Agility: Admirable 10 Kicking: Horrible 3
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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by quind on Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:07 am

Lady Di could of course from our standpoint nearly be 148 TSP. Whereas for any U20s the 135 TDSP aspiration likely marks the outer reach of a TSP target too

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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by jeolmaga on Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:09 am

Lady Di is 138 not 148 tsp though. That is what is surprises me. That U20 players could be pumped out at that quality. If we are going at the 135 tsp you could still have:
Stamina: Marvelous 17 Handling: Grand 15
Attack: Grand 15 Defense: Marvelous 17
Technique: Marvelous 17 Strength: Amazing 14
Jumping: Impressive 11 Speed: Superior 16
Agility: Admirable 10 Kicking: Horrible 3
Which would be still scarily impressive
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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by quind on Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:12 am

TDSP Vs TSP, so Lady Di from my standpoint is 138 TDSP which could very nearly be 148 TSP.

Basically I'm saying if an u20 player hits 135 that will be with a bunch of fresh pops, they're not going to reach the WC final at 135 with 8 pops due in the next two rounds.

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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by jeolmaga on Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:14 am

Ah okay I sorta understand. What does TDSP exactly mean? Having a brain block right now.
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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by spudola1 on Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:57 am

total displayed skill points isn't it?
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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by quind on Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:09 am

Yes, total displayed skill points

The issue being that owing to sub-levels we don't get a good read on the player's actual TSP other than when wages are reset. And a players TSP can vary up to 9.90 from their TDSP

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Re: The 125 Challenge

Post by quind on Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:19 am

Just to add the current U20s squad with one season until the WC currently has a joint leaders in the TDSP race, both sitting on a very happy 123 TDSP.

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