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What the YA can deliver
For a normal sort of player this is likely close to what you can get from YA training;
http://www.blackoutrugby.com/game/club.squad.php#player=12089242
Yes he could be higher in a few skills, but that would mean you'd need to be happy to train those other skills in the YA and also you'd need reveals to guide as to which skills should get TT. And really 95-100 TDSP on a 20 year old who'll rise further on TT and IGT is pretty good to build a squad at lower levels. Not clear what sort of sale value will be ascribed to such players if they're going to keep rolling out of the academies.
http://www.blackoutrugby.com/game/club.squad.php#player=12089242
Yes he could be higher in a few skills, but that would mean you'd need to be happy to train those other skills in the YA and also you'd need reveals to guide as to which skills should get TT. And really 95-100 TDSP on a 20 year old who'll rise further on TT and IGT is pretty good to build a squad at lower levels. Not clear what sort of sale value will be ascribed to such players if they're going to keep rolling out of the academies.
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Re: What the YA can deliver
Wow - could be higher in a few skills - come on, 12's in most of the key skills can't be bad!
What is the YA skill limit? 12's, 13's or 14's?
I'd say this seems at the high end of what can be achieved...seems that 35K is becoming a pretty regular turnout from the YA for those recruited on a reasonable (c.20) level of stars. And those 17-20 yrs old players between 25-35K CSR seem to be going pretty cheap, often less in $ than their CSR.
What level YA is this - Lvl 3 with Lvl 3 trainer?
What is the YA skill limit? 12's, 13's or 14's?
I'd say this seems at the high end of what can be achieved...seems that 35K is becoming a pretty regular turnout from the YA for those recruited on a reasonable (c.20) level of stars. And those 17-20 yrs old players between 25-35K CSR seem to be going pretty cheap, often less in $ than their CSR.
What level YA is this - Lvl 3 with Lvl 3 trainer?
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Re: What the YA can deliver
I assume he's come from a lvl 3 training facility.
There is we're told no limit per se on YA training, rather there's a soft cap. But it does seem that given I've not seen a single YA player with a 13 skill or better, and further that players promoted from the YA take a while to train to 13 that the soft cap is rather limiting.
So train a skill rated at 12 in the YA if you wish, but understand that glacial progress may be overstaing the speed of training at that level.
There is we're told no limit per se on YA training, rather there's a soft cap. But it does seem that given I've not seen a single YA player with a 13 skill or better, and further that players promoted from the YA take a while to train to 13 that the soft cap is rather limiting.
So train a skill rated at 12 in the YA if you wish, but understand that glacial progress may be overstaing the speed of training at that level.
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Re: What the YA can deliver
quind wrote:Not clear what sort of sale value will be ascribed to such players if they're going to keep rolling out of the academies.
Right now, i.e. around 6 hours until the auction is over, he's listed at $300k with Courage taking the bid to $200k
If that sort of value holds we'll see a lot of YA stay open that as of now I'm expecting to close.
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Re: What the YA can deliver
Another 19 year old about to turn 20, Just under 60K CSR with 95 TDSP -
http://www.blackoutrugby.com/game/club.squad.php#player=12100885
http://www.blackoutrugby.com/game/club.squad.php#player=12100885
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Re: What the YA can deliver
Looks to me like there is clear division between the 35K CSR bracket and those into the 50's. Seems those at the high end are keeping their value...
Like you say, I guess a whole load of YA's will stay open...right up until we get so many trainees at this level that the price drops!
Like you say, I guess a whole load of YA's will stay open...right up until we get so many trainees at this level that the price drops!
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Re: What the YA can deliver
Plenty coming out from the YA around the 35K CSR at just 17, the 50K CSR players don't tend to emerge from the YA until they're 19.
I'm stuck with a lvl 2 YA wishing both I had a lvl 1 and I could just close the thing without a worry, and also thinking i'd like to step up to lvl 3 YA training.
I'm stuck with a lvl 2 YA wishing both I had a lvl 1 and I could just close the thing without a worry, and also thinking i'd like to step up to lvl 3 YA training.
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Hahahaha....decisions, decisions!
I've got a lvl 2 too...but still building senior facilities to lvl 3s with my next lump of cash.
Good news for hanging onto trainees till they are 19 tho, as that is most likely what I'll do as I build up.
I've got a lvl 2 too...but still building senior facilities to lvl 3s with my next lump of cash.
Good news for hanging onto trainees till they are 19 tho, as that is most likely what I'll do as I build up.
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Re: What the YA can deliver
He's just (R11) turned 17, he's a smidge below 40K CSR and he's selling for just $24k. Auction finishes in 5 minutes or so
http://www.blackoutrugby.com/game/club.squad.php#player=12112035
There are problems with his defence, but that's a 40k CSR 17 years old for $24k
Stm 11
Hnd 10
Atk 11
Def 3
Tech 6
Str 5
Jum 3
Spd 12
Agi 10
Kic 9
Edit - he sold for $42K, basically a $1 for 1 CSR which is happening a fair bit
http://www.blackoutrugby.com/game/club.squad.php#player=12112035
There are problems with his defence, but that's a 40k CSR 17 years old for $24k
Stm 11
Hnd 10
Atk 11
Def 3
Tech 6
Str 5
Jum 3
Spd 12
Agi 10
Kic 9
Edit - he sold for $42K, basically a $1 for 1 CSR which is happening a fair bit
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Re: What the YA can deliver
If someone can tell me why this player is SO much more I'd be grateful
http://www.blackoutrugby.com/game/club.squad.php#player=12101782
http://www.blackoutrugby.com/game/club.squad.php#player=12101782
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Re: What the YA can deliver
Truly mental isn't it?
I guess he has more rounded stats...but other than that....
Competition obviously helps...I think if people see a player being fought over, it makes them think they want him too...then throw in someone (or two) with a lot of cash....and a need for young players....and the prices go crazy.
You're right about the $1 per CSR point...I use that rule of thumb up to 35K or so, but it seems its holding true for higher and higher CSR players...
I guess he has more rounded stats...but other than that....
Competition obviously helps...I think if people see a player being fought over, it makes them think they want him too...then throw in someone (or two) with a lot of cash....and a need for young players....and the prices go crazy.
You're right about the $1 per CSR point...I use that rule of thumb up to 35K or so, but it seems its holding true for higher and higher CSR players...
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Re: What the YA can deliver
I bought a very similar player to the one going for bonkers money for the $1 dollar a CSR point - http://www.blackoutrugby.com/game/club.squad.php#player=12052339
His kicking isn't quite as high, and his jumping is an issue for a 15, and he's a rebel. He's also not quite as high in CSR, though he is a few weeks younger. Whatever he's not $470,000 worse
If that's the money for kicking I might as well triple net that and stick him back on the market in another 8 weeks or so
His kicking isn't quite as high, and his jumping is an issue for a 15, and he's a rebel. He's also not quite as high in CSR, though he is a few weeks younger. Whatever he's not $470,000 worse
If that's the money for kicking I might as well triple net that and stick him back on the market in another 8 weeks or so
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Re: What the YA can deliver
I think kicking does come into it - I've seen a few comment that they don't 'waste money' on a kicking coach...so I think there are plenty of managers out there who 'value' someone having done the kicking training for them.
Get up his kicking and see if it makes you a packet!
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Re: What the YA can deliver
He's on 2 kicking nets, if I don't see him start to perform as I want that will go to three and he will go back on the TM.
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Re: What the YA can deliver
Interesting thread quind, looking at how I can restock my squad in a couple of seasons.
Right now I've got L3 academy, have been saving stars for "mega" pulls. Considering a strategy of going for more 30 - 40 star pulls and team training over 3/4 seasons.
What is your view on how I approach TT, rotate skills or focus on 4?
Right now I've got L3 academy, have been saving stars for "mega" pulls. Considering a strategy of going for more 30 - 40 star pulls and team training over 3/4 seasons.
What is your view on how I approach TT, rotate skills or focus on 4?
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