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Post by quind on Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:44 pm

Right, the U20 election and the journalist election open shortly. If anyone has any cunning plans for what should be addressed then perhaps here's as good a place as any. Doesn't have to be on the back of a desire to run for a role oneself, if you've got something you want to see someone in either role address to help the community/deliver a win spit it out.

I'm not so fussed about the journo role, though it might be an idea for the journo to post (and I say that knowing Flo has been really stretched for time, but still), it's the U20s that interests me. There's more we can do on the U20s as regards the scouting, some of the training plans, and players getting enough games, but that's actually quite a lot of work and so far no one really wants to put that much time into it, which is understandable if one actually wants a life. But there are some big (and easy) changes which could be made on the experience front, either in the form of a 4 season u20 cycle, or by keeping YA players in the YA for at least another 14 rounds in the season they turn 17. Certainly the 4 season cycle has historically had little support in England, but it's perhaps up for debate again.

One further on the u20s is to think how and what will be fed into the NT scene. If we look at Croatia they will be in another 4+ seasons starting to feed in groups on much higher experience than anything England can attain with our current model. Yes they're at much more risk of 1-2 clubs going bot than we, but we do need some idea of how we'll progress people such they can win at NT level

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Re: S27 Elections

Post by Dazza79 on Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:32 pm

I for one would like to put my name forward to help as an assistant to who ever wins the u20's role looking to run for election in season 29

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Re: S27 Elections

Post by Wingnut on Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:47 pm

Experience yes indeed play more games on higher intensity in clubs and u20 and perhaps extra season in academy

Why not do what raggs did and tent the first 2 seasons too
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Post by Wingnut on Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:49 pm

Also I am thinking we could get some 205cm flankers at some point either if we get them from our own academies or steal the best locks on the tm

If we can get six 205cm guys in our squad that's good
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Re: S27 Elections

Post by quind on Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:58 pm

Wingnut wrote:Experience yes indeed play more games on higher intensity in clubs and u20 and perhaps extra season  in academy

Why not do what raggs did and tent the first 2 seasons too

Tenting I'm sure is fun, perhaps a little windy and wet right now.

On the TNT front we only run two season cycles, and you'll not find many games the current U20s were not on TNT until the actual WC. So first two seasons?

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Post by Wingnut on Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:06 pm

Sub seasons Wink

guess they just need more club games

Extreme tenting

It's probably too late for s28 but for s30 we can go tall in the back row

Need some guys dedicated to stealing locks to train as flankers early doors though unless we bag loads of cushy academy scouts
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Re: S27 Elections

Post by quind on Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:54 pm

I don't know where we are on locks before we start worrying about tall flankers. And too one may observe the Italy game where they knocked out SA, both teams with excellent ruck ratings (SA especially), each with two back rowers below 190cm

But we can certainly look at it. Dazza, I guess first up how do the locks look? Other that is than not bright even for forwards.

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Post by Dazza79 on Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:11 pm

I don't think we have a mass of players over 200cm but that could be addressed with some dual nationality players

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Post by Dazza79 on Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:05 am

I do think the most important issue at this election hasn't been addressed yet and that is; will hopmans be running for both roles?

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Re: S27 Elections

Post by hikky999 on Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:11 pm

I won't be running.

I hate cardio.

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Re: S27 Elections

Post by JamesTheShmoop on Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:24 pm

Considering running for Journo, would anyone be willing to be an assistant or vote for me Wink

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Re: S27 Elections

Post by JamesTheShmoop on Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:32 pm

P.S. I'd love to be involved with the U20's as an Assistant. (Attention anyone who runs for U20 Manager)

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Post by Dazza79 on Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:11 pm

You are getting my vote james

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Re: S27 Elections

Post by Hopmans on Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:21 am

I think i might run again for U20. Roo has done admirably during his reign and won the WC don't forget that. I want to build on that legacy with a focus on well balanced training, optimizing lineups and tactics and a greater influence by the trainers community on training their own players.
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Re: S27 Elections

Post by quind on Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:05 am

Coming in there with the, sadly unsurprising, Baldrick version of a cunning plan.

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Re: S27 Elections

Post by Hopmans on Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:44 am

You have a nice election too Quind.
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Re: S27 Elections

Post by Dazza79 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:00 am

Are we talking pants on head pencils up nose and saying wibble cunning plan

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Re: S27 Elections

Post by quind on Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:18 am

And battle helmets with horns on the inside

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Re: S27 Elections

Post by Wingnut on Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:28 pm

Wibble
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Re: S27 Elections

Post by Dazza79 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:46 pm

Is that you saying you're running wing?

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Post by Wingnut on Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:59 pm

I would focus on winning and letting trainers decide their own training and everything
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Re: S27 Elections

Post by Roo on Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:09 am

I will be running again. 2 seasons ago, I had a child on the way and I was moving house. I wanted to have a go with the current squad, but I was keen for someone else to look after the 17 year olds.

The only 2 people to offer were, Hopmans (unfortunately that did not work out) and then Eddbutt (who moved onto nat team before really doing anything). So I ended up putting a lot of time into the next squad. Whilst this does not give me the right to be manager again, it does make me keen to make the most of the time I have already put in and run for election again.

The next squad is good, at least as good as this squad. I prefer it, with a focus on backs rather than forwards, but also well balanced. We have 4 good locks and some 200cm flankers. As for backs, they are vastly superior to this squad.

Dazza has also taken on the 17 year olds and therefore there would be no question of me stepping aside next time. It would be the same this time if Eddbutt had not moved onto the nats.

My take on 4 year cycles is we don't need it. We have won 2 of the last 4 World Cups and were not far off this time. I have had 50 trainers for both squads. Given we can put together a great team on a 2 seasons plan and luck is still needed to win the World Cup (the draw and teams throwing game have a huge impact), I feel we would win more World Cups by being competitve in every one.

I feel we could have won this World Cup, but 3rd is still good. I always saw Italy as the big threat, so the final would have been very tough.

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