I've got a big one.
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I've got a big one.
My Loosehead is 193cm, 128Kg (see what I did there), my No.8 is 190, 123.
Loosie has far superior strength, tech, handling, defence, speed and attack, he's scored a few tries, my No.8 does very little in a game, so I thought I'd switch them around.
Massive mistake, loosie is reckless and has given away eight pens in two games!!!
What I found interesting was that he only gives away one pen per game when at 1.
So I guess the question is (and yes I know we've been here before). How do you get the best out of a No.8, and makes a good 8 if you're playing driving and PnG?
Loosie has far superior strength, tech, handling, defence, speed and attack, he's scored a few tries, my No.8 does very little in a game, so I thought I'd switch them around.
Massive mistake, loosie is reckless and has given away eight pens in two games!!!
What I found interesting was that he only gives away one pen per game when at 1.
So I guess the question is (and yes I know we've been here before). How do you get the best out of a No.8, and makes a good 8 if you're playing driving and PnG?
Brad- Posts : 13
Join date : 2015-12-15
Re: I've got a big one.
To get the best out of him you need to play to his strengths I suppose
8s like to get involved in open play , if you get one with good handling and attack you see him involved in allot of plays from scrums and if the number 9 gets tied into a ruck
Otherwise just up the pick and go moves and get him strong and technical with good agility
8s like to get involved in open play , if you get one with good handling and attack you see him involved in allot of plays from scrums and if the number 9 gets tied into a ruck
Otherwise just up the pick and go moves and get him strong and technical with good agility
Wingnut- Posts : 3189
Join date : 2011-10-14
Re: I've got a big one.
I didn't know it was a big deal until yesterday, but my 8 is timid reckless, and he cost me the game almost singlehandedly. So I'd say he needs to have good mentals.
stomalomalus- Posts : 114
Join date : 2013-07-08
Re: I've got a big one.
Well aye mentals are key
Timid reckless is née use
Timid reckless is née use
Wingnut- Posts : 3189
Join date : 2011-10-14
Re: I've got a big one.
Ah, that's where I think he may be falling down. He's a converted prop, so his tech and strength are pretty good, along with his handling and speed (since I moved him into the back row), attack is fair, but his agility is 5!!!
With lvl4 coach how many weeks is that going to take me to get him up to something basic like 10?!!!
With lvl4 coach how many weeks is that going to take me to get him up to something basic like 10?!!!
Brad- Posts : 13
Join date : 2015-12-15
Re: I've got a big one.
Lovely thanks, he'll be 28 at that point. Time for plan B I think. Shame, he's on of my first ever youth promotions.
Brad- Posts : 13
Join date : 2015-12-15
Re: I've got a big one.
My #8 is a bit penalty happy, but with another couple of pops in exp (he should pop in exp this season) he'll start to settle down a bit;
Gorden Burd
24 years old | 229,553 CSR
Salary £354,360 (£22,148 per week)
Weight 125kg
Height 201cm
Right handed, right footed, in satisfactory form Stable.
A collected player with reckless discipline, satisfactory leadership, and average experience.
Stamina: Marvelous 17 Handling: Superior 16
Attack: Amazing 14 Defense: Marvelous 17
Technique: Marvelous 17 Strength: Marvelous 17
Jumping: Princely 12 Speed: Amazing 14
Agility: Impressive 11 Kicking: Limited 4
Gorden Burd
24 years old | 229,553 CSR
Salary £354,360 (£22,148 per week)
Weight 125kg
Height 201cm
Right handed, right footed, in satisfactory form Stable.
A collected player with reckless discipline, satisfactory leadership, and average experience.
Stamina: Marvelous 17 Handling: Superior 16
Attack: Amazing 14 Defense: Marvelous 17
Technique: Marvelous 17 Strength: Marvelous 17
Jumping: Princely 12 Speed: Amazing 14
Agility: Impressive 11 Kicking: Limited 4
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Location : escaped from a maximum-security stockade to the Los Angeles underground
Re: I've got a big one.
Ah ok, this is who've I've tried at 8.
23 y/o | 179,730 CSR |
Height 193cm
Weight 128kg
Right handed, right footed, in reputable form Decreasing.
A collected player with reckless discipline, moderate leadership, and moderate experience.
Stamina: Grand 15 Handling: Superior 16
Attack: Grand 15 Defense: Superior 16
Technique: Grand 15 Strength: Superior 16
Jumping: Decent 8 Speed: Admirable 10
Agility: Average 6 Kicking: Despicable 2
I know his speed and agility need a lot of work, but I was prepared for that with him being only 23.
This is who is my usual 8.
25 y/o | 129,170 CSR |
Height 190cm
Weight 123kg
Right handed, right footed, in reputable form Stable.
A conservative player with controlled discipline, admirable leadership, and moderate experience.
Stamina: Impressive 11 Handling: Amazing 14
Attack: Sumptuous 13 Defense: Grand 15
Technique: Amazing 14 Strength: Grand 15
Jumping: Moderate 5 Speed: Grand 15
Agility: Moderate 5 Kicking: Horrible 3
He doesn't do anything wrong, but doesn't set the world alight, and with his poor stamina I tend to swap him the lad below who I'm aggressively training up to replace him.
21 y/o | 130,350 CSR
Height 195cm
Weight 121kg
Right handed, right footed, in reputable form Stable.
A timid player with collected discipline, decent leadership, and limited experience.
Stamina: Sumptuous 13 Handling: Sumptuous 13
Attack: Amazing 14 Defense: Amazing 14
Technique: Sumptuous 13 Strength: Amazing 14
Jumping: Princely 12 Speed: Sumptuous 13
Agility: Impressive 11 Kicking: Moderate 5
23 y/o | 179,730 CSR |
Height 193cm
Weight 128kg
Right handed, right footed, in reputable form Decreasing.
A collected player with reckless discipline, moderate leadership, and moderate experience.
Stamina: Grand 15 Handling: Superior 16
Attack: Grand 15 Defense: Superior 16
Technique: Grand 15 Strength: Superior 16
Jumping: Decent 8 Speed: Admirable 10
Agility: Average 6 Kicking: Despicable 2
I know his speed and agility need a lot of work, but I was prepared for that with him being only 23.
This is who is my usual 8.
25 y/o | 129,170 CSR |
Height 190cm
Weight 123kg
Right handed, right footed, in reputable form Stable.
A conservative player with controlled discipline, admirable leadership, and moderate experience.
Stamina: Impressive 11 Handling: Amazing 14
Attack: Sumptuous 13 Defense: Grand 15
Technique: Amazing 14 Strength: Grand 15
Jumping: Moderate 5 Speed: Grand 15
Agility: Moderate 5 Kicking: Horrible 3
He doesn't do anything wrong, but doesn't set the world alight, and with his poor stamina I tend to swap him the lad below who I'm aggressively training up to replace him.
21 y/o | 130,350 CSR
Height 195cm
Weight 121kg
Right handed, right footed, in reputable form Stable.
A timid player with collected discipline, decent leadership, and limited experience.
Stamina: Sumptuous 13 Handling: Sumptuous 13
Attack: Amazing 14 Defense: Amazing 14
Technique: Sumptuous 13 Strength: Amazing 14
Jumping: Princely 12 Speed: Sumptuous 13
Agility: Impressive 11 Kicking: Moderate 5
Brad- Posts : 13
Join date : 2015-12-15
Re: I've got a big one.
I would start your younger 8 looks a much better option
Dazza79- Posts : 605
Join date : 2012-12-11
Age : 44
Re: I've got a big one.
Use older 8 as an impact sub mate
Will get your young lad more experience quicker and he actually looks more useful overall
Sub him off at 50 mind each time
Also try not to play aggressive if you have been
Will get your young lad more experience quicker and he actually looks more useful overall
Sub him off at 50 mind each time
Also try not to play aggressive if you have been
Wingnut- Posts : 3189
Join date : 2011-10-14
Re: I've got a big one.
Either that or try your current 8 at 12 with plenty of driving
barnserson- Posts : 11
Join date : 2016-04-04
Re: I've got a big one.
Interesting thread about 8's. Mine is this guy:
Zacharie Decarrière, 23 years old | 201,665 CSR
Weight 126kg, Height 190cm
An aggressive player with collected discipline, limited leadership, and moderate experience.
Stamina: Superior 16 Handling: Grand 15
Attack: Impressive 11 Defense: Monumental 18
Technique: Superior 16 Strength: Superior 16
Jumping: Amazing 14 Speed: Admirable 10
Agility: Decent 8 Kicking: Non-Existent 1
At a decision point soon - stop training and bring on the next prospect to ~200k or keep training up to the 300k mark.
Interested in opinions on the relevance of agility for an 8 with a pick and go tactic too & wether to keep training or stop.
Zacharie Decarrière, 23 years old | 201,665 CSR
Weight 126kg, Height 190cm
An aggressive player with collected discipline, limited leadership, and moderate experience.
Stamina: Superior 16 Handling: Grand 15
Attack: Impressive 11 Defense: Monumental 18
Technique: Superior 16 Strength: Superior 16
Jumping: Amazing 14 Speed: Admirable 10
Agility: Decent 8 Kicking: Non-Existent 1
At a decision point soon - stop training and bring on the next prospect to ~200k or keep training up to the 300k mark.
Interested in opinions on the relevance of agility for an 8 with a pick and go tactic too & wether to keep training or stop.
ngater- Posts : 280
Join date : 2011-10-12
Re: I've got a big one.
I've heard agility is a secret weapon for 8s.
He needs speed and attack too, and possibly more stamina given his weight and how much he'll be used?
Nice player though.
He needs speed and attack too, and possibly more stamina given his weight and how much he'll be used?
Nice player though.
Brad- Posts : 13
Join date : 2015-12-15
Re: I've got a big one.
Agility well worth it on a good #8 in a good pack. I think with a 200k CSR 23 year old though I'd be training another player to boost the unit rather than the player
quind- Admin
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Join date : 2011-10-13
Location : escaped from a maximum-security stockade to the Los Angeles underground
Re: I've got a big one.
Is there a position that agility isn't useful in? Looking at the transfer market it's one of the least trained skills in the game...
mattjair- Posts : 135
Join date : 2012-07-24
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