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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Chargrilled on Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:30 pm

I would probably say 20 stars until you have 3 good 17y/o prospects being trained.

Then its most likely best to hoard as many stars as you can! And if you hoard only pull at 180+ stars to avoid dissapointment...

It seem odd though. If a nation was organised enough, they could pull a generation of 300+ star players and smash face...though your pack weights and lock heights would most likely be dire.

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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Raggs on Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:35 pm

Nah, the latest results suggests it's very random. You're better off going with 3-5 pulls of 40-50 stars. That way you get a good selection of players, with discipline and physicals with a better chance of being good, and likely reasonably good players (still with the chance of 30k csr or more).
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by SammyPye on Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:45 am

The graph seems to be showing that you actually get more benefit the more stars you use. If the benefit for each star when scouting decreases you'd expect the graph to go up sharply and then very slowly level off. This goes the other way......

*edit* I remembered that CSR isn't everything so you may get less benefit in terms of actual skills but just a much higher CSR. This game can be confusing sometimes!

I suppose once you've got a training system in place you could just pull one player per season. That's assuming you train each new player for the same amount of time, then you'd have a conveyor belt of players who were fully trained for 4/5 years.
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Raggs on Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:51 am

The graph is also very old, not taking into account all the players of today.

More stars = more chance to get a good pull, but it's not a fixed improvement, you can still get a terrible one. And especially with forwards, the physicals and discipline is more importnat, so scouting more is a better plan.
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Boris on Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:18 pm

Anyone able to tell me how this guy will turn out?

Lucas Harfoot
17 years old

Player ID 6429174
Plays for Junior Bletchley
Nationality England
Weight 111kg
Height 189cm
Scouted 6 Jul 2011 12:37am
Birthday Round 9, Day 6
Stars 20

Left handed, left footed, in decent form .
A collected player with reckless discipline, moderate leadership, and non-existent experience.
Energy: Fit 58% Stamina: Medium Handling: Medium
Attack: Unknown Defense: 9
Technique: Medium Strength: Unknown
Jumping: Medium Speed: 8
Agility: Unknown Kicking: Low


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Re: Youth Academy

Post by The Zec on Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:09 pm

Ballpark figure 16-22k CSR but with that many unknowns it could be anything.
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by EddieBono on Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:40 am

This means that as long as you invest a pretty high minimum number of stars, you will definitely get a pretty high minimum CSR player, right?

What sort of facilities and scout do you recommend to pull the best players? Is youth team training important?


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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Raggs on Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:49 am

Nope. It's always down to chance, but more stars opens up a larger range of csrs I believe, so you stand a chance of getting a monster, but still a chance of getting a nobody.

Scout lvl 3, I have lvl 2 facility and coach as a compromise for saving cash, as I only use my YA for u20s prospects, and no manager (for the same reason).
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Mr Kearns on Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:44 pm

I'm interested in getting a decent YA up and running and have invested in all the YA staff - currently recruiting a lv2 scout. As I only want them to use in my 1st team, do you think it's worth dropping the manager (I'm not looking for a great youth team, just individuals!).

On a seperate note, providing I win my playoffs, I'm going into div4 next season and want to know if the income rises much?
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by The Zec on Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:49 pm

For me, the manager makes life a lot easier - I can see who to promote and who to leave in. The ones you leave in get free training in the skills you want, and the ones you don't promote get replaced with 5/8/10 star 16 y/os depending on your scout.

If you want a compromise, get a L1 manager, but you will never see all 20 reveals on every player. If you have a high turnover of youths, you need a L3 to see all of them, otherwise, a L2 will suffice. (I use L2)

Hope that helps Smile
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Radiohead on Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:28 am

I think differently to Zec.
If you are going to scout lots of players on 10 to 15 stars having a manager may be a good idea. I scout players with 30 to 40 stars and the rest get scouted on 0 stars. Because of this I only have 4/5 players worth pulling so I don't need to see there skill levels as I will pull them anyway. If they are useless they either go on the TM or I try to sell them. Having a manger would make no difference to this strategy it would only cost me more money.
Training in my youth team depends on what position I need more in my senior squad. Stamina, Defence and Handling are needed by everyone, the 4th session would depend on if I need a forward rather than a back or the other away round.
Strength and technique are needed more by forwards, speed and attack by backs.
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Raggs on Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:42 am

Why do you scout players on 0 stars? Or you scout the 4/5 on 0 stars until the next u20s season comes round? Why not just let them age out and get replaced for 10 stars free?

I will only be scouting forwards from now on, and never scout a forward on less than 20 stars (if I hit a 208cm 125kg lock, I don't want him to have only 0 stars...). My backs are all 10 stars (or will be soon), that will last for 4 seasons, then age out and be replaced by 10 stars again.
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Mr Kearns on Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:36 am

What I'm looking to do is what Radiohead does and just pull 4/5 players per season who I can train up to be in my main squad. I like your idea Raggs, on just leaving the academy to itself, rather than scouting them on 0 as I was before.

To choose what position you get, am I right in saying that I remove all the havier players (if I want forwards) and it will then auto generate people to replace them?

Also, when does the U20 season start? Would be nice to give it a go, once my academy is up to scratch anyway!

Hopefully I win today and I can get spending my promotion money!
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Harmsy on Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:01 pm

When you promote a player you will then scout a new replacement of the same type of players so a promoted front row player will generate a new front row player etc.

There is an U20 season every season but generally we aim towards the U20 WC which is held every "even" season e.g 16,18,20. For the Season 18 WC you will want to start scouting players next season R2 D1 to guarantee that they will have an appropriate birthday.

It takes a lot of dedication to produce an U20 player you must give 10 sessions a week minimum for 4 seasons and preferably give them as much game time as you can at least Monday friendlies.
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Mr Kearns on Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:31 pm

Thanks for the advice, I've got a 17 year old I'm training up for Croatia U20 the aim so will practise with him!
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Sadiq on Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:22 pm

No, they will not get more igt but they will get more experience.

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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Jonny on Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:02 am

I don't think it recovers faster, it's just that with most people there's no junior team training so it seems like they recover faster, and also, welcome to the forums womberto!

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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Raggs on Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:28 am

Hey Wom Very Happy Log in more often, login to the chatbox too (you may have done recently and I didn't see I guess).
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Mazzeha on Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:35 pm

This is very very interesting... I think i might hoard up 300 stars, and see what happens, ive got young enough players in my squad at the moment to do it. Hmmm, good job mate, very nice of you to do this.

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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Pantherus on Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:01 pm

With only 1 game per week the energy recovery appears faster for sure - many find their youths handle LTNT every week very manageable.
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Skandalous on Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:10 am

Ahhh Pantherus pops up in the most random places to help people out. Very Happy

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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Wingnut on Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:45 am

hehe
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Courage1989 on Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:38 am

Well, I have 96 Stars saved at the moment...

Now Im training the 3 georgian guys for 3 seasons.. so I was thinking.. If I save my stars, I could help the England side out by saving for stars until the 2nd to last before they promote.

So that's what:

156 by the end of this season.
316 by season 1
476 by season 2
and R2 D1 it'll be about 500 stars...

Think I might pull that 1 monster and see what he comes up at???

Or 3 165 stars?

What do we think?

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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Wingnut on Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:51 pm

3 x 165 stars
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Re: Youth Academy

Post by Raggs on Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:03 pm

5x 100
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