Finances in the game

I plan on doing some research on finances within the game. The first thing I want to look at is whether Standing is profitable or not. I see some teams have removed it but I'm curious as to whether it is a good idea or not. Has any research been done on this before I go and waste my time?!

Most people, me included removed there standing area back when it was commonly accepted that standing "seats" were non profitable.

However now that the stadium staffing/utilities has been changed the standing area is supposedly profitable but not by much.

Generally the best thing to do these days is keep the standing area you start off with as that doesn't cost you anything to build... Do not build more standing though as it would take forever to recover the cost of building the standing area in the first place.

I think that is the conclusion that has been reached anyway, Raggs is the best guy to talk to since he spent a long time researching this and may even still be doing research on the subject not sure.

Harmsy, if you can give me this info for your last home match, I'll work out the benefits:
League - Merchandise 42,000
League - Food and Beverages 84,000
League - Programmes 12,600
League - Standing Tickets 31,000
League - Uncovered Tickets 109,000
League - Covered Tickets 145,250
League - Members Tickets 57,500
League - Corporate Tickets 29,250

League - Merchandise 35,000
League - Food and Beverages 70,000
League - Programmes 10,500
League - Electricity and Gas 157,155
League - Complimentaries 5,600
League - Cleaning Wages 5,880
League - Maintenance Wages 2,310
League - Security Wages 29,400
League - Hospitality Wages 14,000
League - Entertainment Wages 13,440

I'll compare costs from my games with Standing to costs in your games without and see where the differences lie.

I did a hell of a lot of research on this. Admittedly before the staffing changes. What I can tell you is that electricity and gas is your main culprit, and that hasn't changed.

It comes out at about $11.20 per filled standing, and you receive $11.65 per filled standing. That leaves 45c per filled standing to be spent on staffing.

When staffing existed I apparently had less than minimum, since my staffing costs went up after the change. I can also tell you that when I added only 1200 standing (before changes), I needed to add more than 45c per standings worth of staff.

Having read this, I've removed some of the standing seats I had (down from 2750 to 2000, so nothing dramatic).... My thinking being that if the attendance is the same I'd much rather they were sitting and earning me more money than standing. Also I never quite filled my stadium anyway so had spare capacity.

People don't go elsewhere. They either get the seats they want, or they don't turn up.

In that case... oops. Still, if they're costing me money more matches than not then it's the right thing to do in the long term.

One thing I've learned lately is that generally it's better to act in the way which benefits you most in the long term even if it seems slightly counter-intuitive at the time. I have recently applied this at work, at the poker table, and now here, even if it was by accident!

If you weren't filling your seating, I'm positive you're acting in the correct way by removing them .

Maybe don't remove any more though eh . Did you ever fill your stadium as it currently is? It'll be nice if you fill it again to see the profit difference.

Raggs - copy and paste this into Excel. It should keep its format:

Season 13 week 14
League - Merchandise 44,160 League - Merchandise 36,800 7,360 120.0%
League - Food and Beverages 88,320 League - Food and Beverages 73,600 14,720 120.0%
League - Programmes 13,248 League - Programmes 11,040 2,208 120.0%
League - Standing Tickets 30,000 3000 League - Electricity and Gas 165,462 11.82 20.4%
League - Uncovered Tickets 120,000 6000 League - Complimentaries 5,888 0.42 40.8%
League - Covered Tickets 154,000 4400 League - Cleaning Wages 6,090 0.44 29.9%
League - Members Tickets 58,500 1170 League - Maintenance Wages 2,310 0.17 7.9%
League - Corporate Tickets 29,250 150 League - Security Wages 30,800 2.20 1.0%
14720 League - Hospitality Wages 14,750 1.05
League - Entertainment Wages 14,400 1.03
391,750 239,700 163.4%
152,050 163.4%

Here's the previous home game:

League - Merchandise 42,000 League - Merchandise 35,000 7,000 120.0%
League - Food and Beverages 84,000 League - Food and Beverages 70,000 14,000 120.0%
League - Programmes 12,600 League - Programmes 10,500 2,100 120.0%
League - Standing Tickets 31,000 3100 League - Electricity and Gas 157,155 11.23 22.1%
League - Uncovered Tickets 109,000 5450 League - Complimentaries 5,600 0.40 38.9%
League - Covered Tickets 145,250 4150 League - Cleaning Wages 5,880 0.42 29.6%
League - Members Tickets 57,500 1150 League - Maintenance Wages 2,310 0.17 8.2%
League - Corporate Tickets 29,250 150 League - Security Wages 29,400 2.10 1.1%
14000 League - Hospitality Wages 14,000 1.00
League - Entertainment Wages 13,440 0.96
372,000 227,785 163.3%
144,215 163.3%